Episode 7 - The Spring and The Dam
In this episode, we talk about how the church holds back the Holy Spirit. Rachel and I both share our visions about the flowing of his waters. Plus goat talk.
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00:00:00 Rachel
Welcome to the Guardrail podcast. This is a podcast about what it looks like when you ask God to give you eyes to see and ears to hear. We describe all the many things God has shown us as we pursued A deeper walk with him. I'm Rachel, and I’m Fa.
00:00:13 Fa
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast.
00:00:16 Rachel
Welcome back.
00:00:19 Fa
Welcome back.
00:00:20 Rachel
I like saying it, it feels friendly and I like being friendly.
00:00:26 Fa
We're big time now. We have 100 plays on.
00:00:30 Rachel
Do we? I think you said it was like.
00:00:30 Fa
Our podcast. Yeah, almost.
00:00:32 Fa
By the time this airs.
00:00:34 Rachel
Yeah, OK, we're international now.
00:00:37 Fa
Someone in Belgium listened.
00:00:38 Rachel
To us, although I.
00:00:39 Rachel
Wonder if that's just the.
00:00:42 Rachel
What is that thing that people?
00:00:45 Rachel
Yeah, it could be just that.
00:00:45 Fa
I don't know.
00:00:49 Rachel
Maybe I guess.
00:00:50 Rachel
You know I.
00:00:51 Rachel
Am the technological expert in this relationship, so yeah.
00:00:53 Fa
No you don't.
00:00:55 Fa
You don't know.
00:00:56 Rachel
Anything help you with your simple ways so it's spring out finally like it's actually warm out and I was enjoying eating bugs tonight with the girls outside while we were walking around. And that's our incredible.
00:01:11 Rachel
They just swarm you and then you can't breathe, and then you just breathe and Nets. So.
00:01:16 Fa
Good. Yeah, it sucks because you wait for so long to get nice outside and it's like all of a sudden, they're really, really nice and like early. It's nice.
00:01:24 Rachel
The bugs are here to make sure you don't enjoy it. Yeah, the mosquitoes. Apparently they don't waste a minute to become a thing. No, I thought they would save their energy for summer. But now they start right now.
00:01:27 Fa
Out. Let's go.
00:01:39 Fa
Yeah. So whatever you know.
00:01:43 Rachel
It's all good. It's all good.
00:01:43 Fa
I really hate it. Yeah, I hate it.
00:01:44 Rachel
Right. I like being outside now. It's my time to plan.
00:01:49 Rachel
All the things I'm going to do in the yard, I have many ideas and and I'm excited. We're going to get a goat and.
00:01:59 Fa
There we know about that.
00:02:00 Rachel
Well, First off.
00:02:00 Rachel
You are going to buy a truck.
00:02:03 Rachel
A flat bed.
00:02:04 Rachel
Right. Pickup truck wherever it's called. A machinery that will house my goats because I am going to bring.
00:02:10 Rachel
A goat home.
00:02:11 Rachel
And you, you don't even know it's there. This.
00:02:14 Rachel
Is the thing.
00:02:15 Fa
I see your animals every day.
00:02:15 Rachel
I can. I can almost. No.
00:02:17 Rachel
You you definitely don't feed my animals every.
00:02:18 Fa
Feed your elbows at least four times a week.
00:02:18 Rachel
Day. No, you don't. No, you.
00:02:21 Rachel
Don't. That's such a lie. That's the lie from.
00:02:21 Fa
Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
00:02:24 Rachel
The pits of hell, Sir.
00:02:25 Fa
No, and I have to go get feed.
00:02:26 Rachel
No, no.
00:02:27 Rachel
No, no. OK, today you did well. OK, I work. So on the days I.
00:02:30 Rachel
Work we have.
00:02:30 Fa
Exactly. You were. You were.
00:02:31 Rachel
To I work 3 days out of the week, so don't even try to exaggerate it. So OK, let's be honest. Before God and our friends.
00:02:40 Fa
Yeah, but you go away every chance you get.
00:02:42 Rachel
Yeah. OK. So I have to.
00:02:44 Fa
Feed your animals but you.
00:02:45 Rachel
Like it I.
00:02:46 Rachel
Know. Yeah. So here's the thing, though. What's going to happen is I'm going to get some goats. My next trip to.
00:02:53 Rachel
And bring them back. And you're not even in the know that there's there are goats because I'm going to hide.
00:02:59 Rachel
Them in our our woods.
00:03:01 Rachel
And you don't.
00:03:02 Rachel
Go up there so.
00:03:04 Rachel
It's a perfect plan because you.
00:03:04
Doesn't matter.
00:03:05 Rachel
Don't go up there. You're not going to know they're there.
00:03:08 Rachel
And you know, I think it's.
00:03:11 Rachel
Going to be good.
00:03:12 Fa
Like it? No.
00:03:16 Rachel
You're gonna.
00:03:16 Fa
Do you're gonna do it? That's OK.
00:03:18 Rachel
Well, that doesn't sound very.
00:03:19 Fa
Good. No, it's OK.
00:03:22 Rachel
Since it's little that you give me a hard time about stuff, but I know that deep down you don't actually care. And if I wanted to go, you'd let me have a.
00:03:22 Fa
Yeah, yeah, you got.
00:03:29 Rachel
Go, in fact, that.
00:03:29 Rachel
Was a deal we made Wendy Goats. Are you getting?
00:03:32 Rachel
I don't know. I also don't think I wanna get a vote. It's just talk to irritate you.
00:03:33 Fa
Is it little girl?
00:03:39 Rachel
One of the small things in life that.
00:03:41 Fa
Give you pleasure, yeah.
00:03:41 Rachel
Like teasing you, but you know I might get.
00:03:45 Rachel
To go though.
00:03:46 Rachel
There's a small part of.
00:03:49 Rachel
That well, no. There's a large part of me that wants the goat.
00:03:51 Rachel
But a small part that.
00:03:52 Rachel
Doesn't really want to.
00:03:53 Rachel
Go so it could go either way.
00:03:57 Fa
Which you were happy.
00:03:58 Rachel
You get more than.
00:03:58 Rachel
One go though. If you do get a.
00:03:59 Rachel
Go. You get to get two at least so.
00:04:00 Fa
To since I've heard about that.
00:04:03 Rachel
I'm thinking that that's your summer project is to building a barn in the woods, I said. Don't know if I'm allowed to have goats, so that's another thing, but.
00:04:13 Fa
They don't need.
00:04:13 Rachel
To know you know the law, don't.
00:04:14 Rachel
Need to get involved so.
00:04:17 Rachel
Where we went on our property, but anyway.
00:04:23 Rachel
We're here to talk about.
00:04:26 Rachel
Spiritual Ness because we are spiritual. So yeah, actually, I'm going to talk about.
00:04:38 Rachel
The Holy Spirit, I think.
00:04:42 Fa
Yes, go ahead.
00:04:43
What do you think? Yeah.
00:04:44 Rachel
Yeah. So it's funny because this isn't one of the we're gonna show me.
00:04:50 Rachel
Isn't like I don't, it's.
00:04:52 Rachel
So hard to gauge.
00:04:54 Rachel
These things because all right, so God shows me stuff.
00:04:58 Rachel
And I I'm excited and I like it and I tell.
00:05:00 Rachel
People and then like.
00:05:01 Fa
Right.
00:05:04 Rachel
Depending on how they react, I'm like oh, they're.
00:05:07 Rachel
They're excited about that.
00:05:08 Rachel
Like, that's cool. I'm excited about it too.
00:05:10 Rachel
I'm excited about.
00:05:10 Rachel
All of it. But like certain people, certain certain visions or whatever get different reactions. So I never know. Like what really speaks to somebody or what doesn't. Because to me it's I'm all excited but.
00:05:24 Rachel
You know, some things just hit differently, I guess, and this is one of the things that I.
00:05:28 Rachel
Don't to me.
00:05:29 Rachel
I don't really like.
00:05:30 Rachel
I'm excited about it. I liked what I saw. I didn't. I don't go around like I haven't shared it in, like large amounts. You know, I'm trying to say doesn't make any.
00:05:37 Rachel
Sense I haven't like.
00:05:38
Like some are.
00:05:38 Fa
For you and some are like for other people.
00:05:40 Rachel
Yeah, kind of like this one was more I felt I felt like it.
00:05:42 Rachel
Was more for me, so I don't really tell anybody.
00:05:44 Rachel
About this one, but however I.
00:05:47 Rachel
Do feel like like.
00:05:49 Rachel
Like we're supposed to talk about it, so.
00:05:52 Fa
You're saying this. This is a podcast exclusive.
00:05:55 Rachel
Yeah, I guess so.
00:05:56 Rachel
I don't know. I do think I probably shared it.
00:05:58 Rachel
With some people, so we have.
00:06:00 Rachel
We have, you know, as we mentioned before on here that we have home meetings here every week and it's interesting because like I work nights. So we have every week. It's a different day of the week because I have a different schedule every week. So it's just kind of one of those things.
00:06:15 Rachel
And you know, I was praying this was, like, months ago. I was praying about these home meetings and just kind of talking to God about it and stuff.
00:06:26 Rachel
And sometimes, well, most of most of the visions that I I get from God or whatever.
00:06:34 Rachel
Like I I'd tell them to you and my mom and other people around me, and then I share them at our meetings. Like just kind of like, well, I'm just going to share what God's been telling me this week. So this is what God and tell me. So I haven't shared this at our meetings, I don't think, but probably with some people that do.
00:06:48 Rachel
Come to our meetings so but anyway.
00:06:52 Rachel
So I was praying about our meetings and and I'll just we don't we don't have any plan. We don't have any kind of agenda about what we're doing. You know it really comes down to just like God, we just felt like God was like, yeah have people over and and we'll make it. I'll make it easy for you.
00:07:04
Right, that. Yeah.
00:07:12 Rachel
You know, because I'm, like, thinking I'm.
00:07:14 Rachel
Going through all the things.
00:07:14 Rachel
With God, I'm like, oh, God, we'll have.
00:07:16 Rachel
People over, but like what are we actually supposed?
00:07:19 Rachel
To do and when are we supposed to have it? I don't work. I don't like I.
00:07:24 Rachel
Said I don't.
00:07:25 Rachel
Work a steady schedule every week, so it's going to be like, well, we can't have it every week. And that was like let.
00:07:31 Rachel
Me. Just make it.
00:07:31 Rachel
Easy for you. You can have it on whatever day you want throughout the week. Just ask me who to invite. Ask me what day.
00:07:39 Rachel
And then you can just ask me what to share and I'll make it real easy for you. And so I was like, OK, that works. And it's been really good. So I'm praying, you know, about the meanings and like.
00:07:51 Rachel
God, what do you?
00:07:52 Rachel
Want to happen? Like, what is the deal? What do you really want from this? Like, what is your goal? And like, people are constantly always like, oh, you have to have a vision about this. And you know, what is God doing with you and this and that. Like, I don't really believe that anymore. I mean, I don't think it's wrong to.
00:08:07 Rachel
Have a vision or like a plan.
00:08:08 Rachel
Or like whatever. But I really think.
00:08:10 Rachel
That our goal.
00:08:13 Rachel
They should just follow Jesus and.
00:08:14 Rachel
Whatever he's saying, that's our vision. Like that's.
00:08:16
Right.
00:08:17 Rachel
It you know.
00:08:17
Yeah, I feel like a.
00:08:18 Fa
Lot of people.
00:08:22 Fa
The presence of God with the vision.
00:08:25 Fa
And I mean.
00:08:25 Fa
Or of the relationship with God with the vision.
00:08:27 Rachel
Here. Yeah, here's my fear. Is that OK? We.
00:08:29 Rachel
Have a vision.
00:08:30 Rachel
So then what happens when our vision is lined up with what God wants to do? You know, we're so stuck on what we're we're gaming. We're we're aiming for what our goal is. Where is the room for the holy?
00:08:42 Rachel
Spirit to.
00:08:42 Rachel
Do with whatever the Holy Spirit.
00:08:44 Rachel
Wants to do where is.
00:08:45 Rachel
The spontaneity in that, like the Holy Spirit.
00:08:46 Fa
Well, our vision is to follow.
00:08:47 Fa
What God is saying yet?
00:08:48 Rachel
That's our vision. That's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, I don't really believe in, like, oh, we're going to, this is going to turn into this and that, and we're going to go from here from there. And and it's like, I don't have that plan. I don't think that way because I think that's, for me anyway. Dangerous ground. It's.
00:09:02 Rachel
Then I'm trying to make things happen to move towards a goal that I planned when it could have just been me dreaming about something, you know, like maybe the Holy Spirit was like, Nah, it doesn't look like that. And that's always been my problem. It's like I have goals. And so if things don't look like the way I think they should go, I think that it's not right. And so I'll try to steer it in One Direction.
00:09:06 Fa
Right.
00:09:24 Rachel
To make it look like how I want it.
00:09:25 Rachel
To be right.
00:09:26 Rachel
When how the Holy Spirit does it maybe doesn't look like that and we're still reaching the goal. So it just kind of is tricky for me. But anyway, so as I'm praying about my.
00:09:37 Rachel
I start to see I'm in my living room and that's where we have our meetings.
00:09:42 Rachel
I start to see like this like spring bubble up out of my floors in the living room starts to bubble up and it's just kind of like a like a.
00:09:55 Rachel
Pretty decent amount of water accumulating on the floor and there's just like a spring bubbling up. You know, it's not like a crazy gushing river, but it's definitely like a steady flow of water.
00:10:07 Rachel
Coming out of the ground of nowhere and I'm seeing this and, you know, not really. I don't know what that means. Like, I understand the whole spirit aspect of it, you know, and being equate equated to water and living water and all.
00:10:20 Rachel
That so I'm like, OK, cool.
00:10:22 Rachel
And I'm praying about that and I and I see, like, almost different scenes about this spring. And it's like our living room. But it has a spring in the middle of it. And I start to see, like, we're we're like kicking water. Like we're kicking the water.
00:10:37 Rachel
Like playfully. Yeah, like you just kind of like prancing around in the water. And it's like, there's kind of, like, a small little like 1 inch of water on the floor, you know, just like slightly.
00:10:46 Rachel
Flooded, but not like overwhelming.
00:10:47 Fa
Right, right, right. Yeah.
00:10:49 Rachel
I mean just kind of.
00:10:50 Rachel
Like splashing water, kicking it, and whatever.
00:10:53 Rachel
And then I see like the next scene and it's like we're drinking the water like we just drink it. You know, it's like it's good drinking water. And then I see, like, we shut all the doors and windows of the House and the water just accumulates and and like overflows and becomes like a pool. And we're.
00:11:13 Rachel
Swimming in the water.
00:11:15 Rachel
And then I see where we are. We open up the doors and we open up the windows and and the water is being carried out into our driveway and it's becoming like it's it's creating streams and streams create, you know, creeks and creeks, create rivers. And I saw, like, carrying out.
00:11:31 Fa
Right, you know.
00:11:32 Rachel
Of our house.
00:11:33 Rachel
And so I was like, oh, it's really cool.
00:11:37 Rachel
I'm smart enough to get what you're trying.
00:11:38 Rachel
To say here.
00:11:39 Rachel
God like.
00:11:41 Rachel
So I'm praying about that and like, yeah, God.
00:11:43 Rachel
Like for sure.
00:11:44 Rachel
Let it happen, like all good, you know, good vibes. So anyway, as I'm praying that then all of a sudden I see myself bringing in new furniture in the house and I start to see that our carpet.
00:11:56 Rachel
And then laying down this carpet on top of the.
00:11:58 Rachel
Spring and the the water like like it.
00:12:01 Rachel
Goes in a little bit and a little bit, and then it like slows down and it stops. So like I just place this carpet over the over the spring and I place like new furniture in the living room and.
00:12:11 Rachel
I brought stuff in.
00:12:13 Rachel
And so I was like, God, what happened? What happened in the spring, like, what's going on? And I'm praying about that. And, you know, like, oh, why is this spring right here? Like, I don't want that to happen, you know? And then, like, I'm praying about.
00:12:25 Rachel
It you know.
00:12:25 Rachel
I'm like God I.
00:12:26 Rachel
Felt like the Holy Spirit was directing my prayer. I was like, what am I supposed to pray about that?
00:12:30 Rachel
Like I don't.
00:12:30 Rachel
Want you to stop flowing. Like what's happening? What did I do?
00:12:33 Rachel
And thought the Holy Spirit was like.
00:12:36 Rachel
Own dorm struck me, and so I'm like, OK God, I don't want to obstruct you. Like, I don't want that to happen. So I see, like, myself, uncovering, like, where the spring is and.
00:12:46 Rachel
Like this water.
00:12:47 Rachel
Starts bubbling out again and I start, you know doing we start enjoying the water again and.
00:12:52 Rachel
Like because I didn't obstruct it anymore, right? We didn't.
00:12:54 Rachel
Obstruct the flow and then all of a sudden?
00:12:57 Rachel
I saw like a different scenario where I I took piping and I hooked up this piping to where the the spring like mouth is and I like kind of like created this piping system. You know this water work system where I'm I'm piping it out out outside my house like kind of diverting it.
00:13:17 Rachel
All the way outside.
00:13:19 Rachel
All the way across our property, all the way across to the to the road. And what I saw was I put a spicket on the.
00:13:25
And then.
00:13:27 Rachel
And so cars were coming. It was like cars were coming and they wanted this water and they had buckets with them. And to make it easier for everybody more convenient. Like, I diverted the water. And then, like, people could just come and pull up their car and, like, turn on the faucet and just pour in their bucket.
00:13:44 Rachel
And then leave and they all.
00:13:46 Rachel
There's like a line of cars doing that.
00:13:48 Rachel
And and I was like, huh, that doesn't seem quite right. So I'm, like, praying about that. I'm like, God, what? What's going on here? Like, I don't want that to happen. What are we? What's going on? You know? And so I'm praying about that. And like, I don't want to divert you. God like, what is happening? And then I felt the Holy Spirit was saying he was like.
00:14:08 Rachel
He's like, don't don't cover me up. Don't obstruct me, don't bring things in, and it obstructs me. Don't bring other things in and it includes my flow and my and my natural flow in the spirit is like, let me be natural. The spring is natural. It comes out of the ground like it.
00:14:28 Rachel
There's no I don't know what the right conditions are for a natural spring to just pop up somewhere, but it just pops up and then some places have these natural springs and they just pop up and they flow.
00:14:38 Rachel
And he was like, I just want to be natural here. I just want to do what I naturally do in your home. So don't divert me. Don't, don't create a system for me and direct me. Yeah. Don't try to control me. Don't try to make it convenient for everyone else. Don't. Don't try to reroute me or, you know.
00:14:43
Right.
00:14:49 Fa
Are you trying to control it?
00:15:00 Rachel
Like I said, direct me.
00:15:03 Fa
It's almost like.
00:15:04 Fa
The pipes or vision it's like, oh, I have.
00:15:07 Fa
A vision, right? Right. I have a.
00:15:09 Fa
'S here I have a.
00:15:09 Rachel
I have a bowl here. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's like, well, let's make it convenient for everybody so that everybody can get this water. Well, I'll just direct the Holy Spirit all the way out in a pipe and have them, like, close to the road. So you don't have to get out of your car to get a feel of the Holy Spirit. And you can turn the Holy Spirit.
00:15:10 Fa
Vision. I have a goal I.
00:15:11 Fa
Got to do this.
00:15:24 Rachel
On and off.
00:15:25 Fa
Yeah, yeah.
00:15:26 Rachel
He's like, don't turn me on and off. Just let me flow naturally. And he was like, sometimes I want you to play in my water and it's when you showed me, like me, splashing around and kicking the water. Sometimes I just want you to be here and enjoy the spirit. Sometimes I want you to drink of me and.
00:15:42 Rachel
Me and that was like us drinking him in the spring and he's like, sometimes I want you to close the doors and I want you to swim in my presence and create a pool. And he said then other times I want you to open up the doors and create streams so that I can be carried out. He said not every night is going to be the same and not every.
00:15:50
Right.
00:16:02 Rachel
Not every system is going to be the same. You know, it might be drinking water one night. It may be swimming water. One night it may, you know, be a river or whatever. You're saying that the point is, let me do what I do. Let me be natural here.
00:16:16 Fa
Is it insane?
00:16:18 Rachel
Let me be natural.
00:16:18 Fa
It also, yeah, it also if you if you pipe this right let's say you you pipe a stream or whatever you're limiting what can happen to it because.
00:16:28 Fa
Like you said, your vision people would come to the with the bucket or whatever. Whereas before you're in the stream or, you know, a little puddle, whatever you there's people will react, react differently to it. Like you could do different things. So one you could swim with. One could like drink it.
00:16:46 Fa
And bathing it and like use it for like drinking for cooking or whatever, you know, 1000 things you could do like you could fish, you know, eventually you'll buy.
00:16:51 Rachel
Yes. Yeah, right.
00:16:54 Fa
Fish and then whatever.
00:16:56 Fa
But if you pipe it, you're just you limited the Holy Spirit and then everything. Everybody does the same thing and it looks like religious religion again. You know what I mean?
00:17:06 Rachel
Yeah, I I think.
00:17:06 Rachel
That's the thing. And what gets to me is.
00:17:08 Rachel
That, yeah, like you said, you know.
00:17:11 Rachel
We have this idea. It's like, OK, this is what the this is what we want the Holy Spirit to do and some I think we operate a.
00:17:18 Rachel
Lot like that in.
00:17:19 Rachel
Our lives and in our church settings like OK, Holy Spirit. It's like last episode about like Holy Spirit, it's time for you to come out.
00:17:26 Rachel
Of that closet, we.
00:17:26 Rachel
Need to use you now but that.
00:17:27 Fa
Correct. Yeah.
00:17:28 Rachel
Is not how the Holy Spirit.
00:17:30 Rachel
And tends to operate with us and how? That's not the relationship he wants with us. What is natural to him and what is necessary in the moment. Like sometimes we just need to play in his spirit and just be and and enjoy his presence.
00:17:45 Rachel
Sometimes we need to drink it because we need to be hydrated in him, and sometimes we need to carry it out. There are people who are constantly just like. No, no, no, no. We got to.
00:17:55 Rachel
Carry it out.
00:17:55 Rachel
We got to do this every time. This is what we got to do. And then like the.
00:17:58 Rachel
Whispers like no.
00:17:59 Rachel
It's not the same every time. It's not the same. Let me do what I naturally do.
00:18:04 Rachel
And pay attention so that I can tell you what I plan to do tonight. And that was my biggest thing too. Is like, OK, Holy Spirit. So then what do you want to do tonight?
00:18:12 Rachel
Well, tonight we're.
00:18:13 Rachel
Going to swim next week?
00:18:16 Rachel
Going to drink and it's so it's different, but the point is he was like, let me be natural. Let me do my thing and you'll be shocked at what happens. And I think that's what's been happening with us is.
00:18:25 Fa
That is crazy.
00:18:27 Rachel
Like men, every.
00:18:28 Rachel
Meeting has been so good because we don't have an agenda and we don't have a plan for the Holy Spirit. We're not coming to him saying, OK guys, it's time for you to do this.
00:18:37 Rachel
Somebody needs to be saved tonight, so you need to show up.
00:18:39 Rachel
In this kind.
00:18:39 Rachel
Of way and then fill them.
00:18:41 Rachel
With the Holy Spirit after like.
00:18:42 Rachel
No, if that happens.
00:18:44 Rachel
Awesome. But like, let's let the Holy Spirit.
00:18:46 Rachel
Direct US and guide us in.
00:18:48 Rachel
This time but anyway.
00:18:49 Fa
Well, hang on. What about last week?
00:18:51 Rachel
No. So anyway.
00:18:52 Rachel
I want to continue.
00:18:53 Rachel
With this so.
00:18:56 Rachel
Because it's not done. He showed me more. So while we're enjoying the the spring water, I saw like people who have been coming to our meetings, I saw them like driving over to her house and they had they had gallons like 5 gallon buckets and two of them in their car with them. And so they came over and they were like.
00:19:16 Rachel
Just, you know, enjoying the water and being in the water and then they would fill up their five gallon buckets and then bring the buckets with them back home to their house and they would drink of it.
00:19:26 Rachel
Throughout the week. And so like I saw them drinking the water and then, you know, as the water like.
00:19:33 Rachel
Got to its end. They would come back to our house and they would fill up again and go back home and come back and fill up again each week and come back home until eventually.
00:19:43 Rachel
They realized that.
00:19:46 Rachel
Wait a minute.
00:19:47 Rachel
I want this water to be natural in my house too, and what I saw was is that they these people, they were like, OK, this is great. We can go to Rachel's house and get water.
00:20:00 Rachel
But I want to have my own water in my own house and I saw them outside digging a well and and the Holy Spirit spoke me. He's like, that is the.
00:20:10 Rachel
Point to all of this.
00:20:13 Rachel
He's like, let me be natural.
00:20:16 Rachel
And let people come and enjoy me in my natural form, and then they're going to realize that this water tastes better than the tap water they've been drinking all their lives. So the church has true.
00:20:28 Rachel
It's like we we we come in and religion filters out the water and like pipes it and brings it to your house and makes it convenient for you and and puts chemicals in it and treats the water and, you know, and in that it doesn't taste as good as a natural spring. And he was like, I want people to know that water can taste this good.
00:20:45 Fa
Right.
00:20:49 Rachel
I want people to know that my presence can actually be like this instead of all the filtered stuff they've been consuming all their lives, like people don't know what God's presence really is like they know what they've been given. He wants to give you some he wants to.
00:21:04 Rachel
Give you from the source.
00:21:06 Rachel
And so he was like the point of all that you're doing right now is to show people that my presence can be like this. And so that they can be inspired to bring their present, my presence back home with them and create their own water systems. Like, let me come in and boil up in their bring up a spring up a well in their house or do well like.
00:21:26 Rachel
In their own home and in their own property and their own lives, and so that they can have their own fresh source of water. And he was like, that's the point. That's what I want you to do. People don't.
00:21:35 Rachel
Know that water tastes that good.
00:21:37 Rachel
And so.
00:21:39 Rachel
You know, that's kind of like.
00:21:41 Rachel
He was just.
00:21:42 Rachel
Showing the purpose of what we've been doing, it's like man, we're letting the Holy Spirit do what he wants to do and people are getting it and they're tasting and they're seeing that God is good. You know, just like how he intends, like, taste and see that the Lord is good and and he was just showing me, like, man, people I saw, like, people going over to the faucet and like, they've been just.
00:22:01 Rachel
They've been drinking tap water.
00:22:03 Rachel
From the holy.
00:22:03 Rachel
Spirit. It's like a filtered chemical chlorine, you know, version with fluoride in it. And it's like all this.
00:22:10 Fa
Yeah, it's green. Yeah.
00:22:11 Rachel
Stuff that people.
00:22:12 Rachel
Have added well like you go to church and.
00:22:14 Rachel
It's. It's what people.
00:22:15 Rachel
Have added it's it's all what people.
00:22:18 Rachel
Have and not all that, I mean the.
00:22:20 Rachel
Holy Spirit shows up and there's really genuine churches there, but.
00:22:23 Rachel
They're mostly religion is it's man made in a.
00:22:25 Rachel
Way that you know we have cured.
00:22:28 Rachel
Needed God's presence to our liking and and so we serve people God's presence in a tidy form. You know what?
00:22:38 Rachel
I mean.
00:22:38 Rachel
That's filtered by our structures which leads.
00:22:43 Rachel
Us into something that showed me.
00:22:45 Rachel
This week or last week or whatever.
00:22:49 Rachel
And to say.
00:22:49 Rachel
All that, like he's been showing you and I about this, this whole water system thing, but I've been, I've been.
00:22:58 Rachel
I was. I was praying.
00:23:00 Rachel
And I was laying on my floor and I started to see and I was looking at my ceiling, which there are like water spots on our ceiling.
00:23:09 Rachel
From like different times that our roof has leaked, it's not actively leaking, but I started to see like drops of water falling from my ceiling like it was raining outside and and water.
00:23:20 Rachel
Head started to drop and and hit me on the forehead and I was like, what is that? And at first I was like, am I just imagine this because I'm looking at water spots like.
00:23:28 Rachel
My mind just naturally goes there but.
00:23:31 Rachel
The I'm praying about it and and.
00:23:33 Rachel
I start to see Jesus.
00:23:34 Rachel
Put out buckets in my living room, collecting like.
00:23:37 Rachel
These drops where the water is falling.
00:23:39 Rachel
From the ceiling.
00:23:40 Rachel
My ceiling. My roof is leaking and I saw him putting buckets out.
00:23:41 Fa
Yeah, yeah.
00:23:45 Rachel
Collecting the water. And so I'm I'm, you know, I'm like I got. What are you showing me? Like I'm praying about this and I see him. You know, take these buckets of filled with water and he poured them down the sink and I was like God, what's going on like God this doesn't seem good. I.
00:24:02 Rachel
Don't want my roof to leak, you know?
00:24:05 Rachel
So I'm like brand like what does.
00:24:06 Rachel
That mean that I do I have.
00:24:07 Rachel
A Ricky Ricky.
00:24:08 Rachel
Roof. So what does that?
00:24:09 Rachel
Mean, you know.
00:24:11 Rachel
And so as I'm praying that he didn't really explain it to me in the moment, but he I saw him with like, a not a chainsaw, but one of the.
00:24:21 Rachel
I don't know Carpenter. People will have like these different gadgets and whatnot. Power tools. It goes up to the ceiling. He starts cutting the edges of my ceiling in the corners and starts like, you know, he's just cutting it all out the roof. He's cutting it out. And then I saw him as, like, a huge giant come down from the sky and take my roof.
00:24:40 Rachel
Off of my living room. And when he did that, all this rain from outside, it was storming outside. It wasn't like storming like Chaotic Storm, but it was just raining really hard all of a sudden. The rain starts falling.
00:24:51 Rachel
On me. Wow.
00:24:52 Rachel
And like it starts accumulating in my house.
00:24:55 Rachel
And then it's like pooling all around me. All this rain was just falling on me. And then I saw our meetings and like, I was like playing guitar and like, we were all sitting and it just rain was just falling on us, like falling from heaven. And I was like, God, what are you showing me?
00:25:10 Rachel
And he was like in my last days, I'm.
00:25:13 Rachel
Going to pour out my spirit on all flesh.
00:25:16 Rachel
And and I was like, OK, so like, this is a like obviously a good thing. I'm like, OK God like.
00:25:23 Rachel
What is happening like. Yeah, I want. I want your. I want your your spirit to to pour out on me. And I was like. But what? What was the deal with like my leaky roof and and you throwing that water out wouldn't wouldn't that water technically be the spirit and be good anyway? And he was like.
00:25:43 Rachel
That water has been filtered and tainted by the structures that you have made. He's like when I build, I build without roofs, without ceilings, so that my spirit can pour out on you unobstructed. And he's like, I want you to receive my spirit. He's like, I'm always pouring my spirit out. But are you always receiving it?
00:26:04 Rachel
In abundance are you always receiving?
00:26:07 Rachel
Unobstructed and unfiltered. He's like, I want you to get the purest form of my spirit, not something that has been obstructed by the structures that you have made. Yeah. And so I was like, yeah. God, I want. OK, I want that. I want your. I want your the purest form of your spirit to follow me not.
00:26:16 Fa
That's so good.
00:26:26 Rachel
Unencumbered. I want it unencumbered by religion and by man-made theology, man made structures. I want your spirit in the purest form. And I saw, like our church and.
00:26:41 Rachel
Like the same thing. It was like the roof was leaking. There was just, like, tons of leaky spots in the roof. And I saw Jesus again in our church cutting out the ceiling so that water, the rain could just fall on us unencumbered, unfiltered, untainted by man. Man made structures.
00:27:01 Rachel
You know, theology, religion, all these things that we have created, we created it. Got it. He's like when I build my structures, I don't build roofs with them.
00:27:12 Rachel
I was like, all right, make it happen, yeah.
00:27:13 Fa
That's nuts.
00:27:15 Fa
That's so good, what you're saying?
00:27:19 Fa
Should I share about my vision? Yeah, so.
00:27:23 Fa
You had this fishing lake a couple days after I had mine.
00:27:28 Fa
But I had.
00:27:31 Fa
Somewhat of the same vision I was spraying last week or the week before. I don't remember anymore. I'm not good with the times.
00:27:41 Fa
So I was spraying and.
00:27:46 Fa
I remember going down a set of stairs and Jesus was in front of me, some like following Jesus to this dark place was like it's kind of dark here.
00:27:59 Fa
But you know.
00:28:01 Fa
We were walking down the stairs and I it was it was very humid. I could like feel that it was humid and like it was a wet place. So. So I'm walking down the stairs and then we arrived to like a level.
00:28:14 Fa
And down in this level.
00:28:16 Fa
There was a leaky roof. The walls were leaking and stuff and that was.
00:28:24 Fa
Like puddles were forming everywhere or whatever.
00:28:27 Fa
So I was like, oh, there's a lot of.
00:28:29 Fa
Water here or whatever.
00:28:31 Fa
And immediately I kind of looked to one of the walls and I could see like pieces of rebar or whatever and you look outside.
00:28:42 Fa
And you could see.
00:28:43 Fa
Like a like you're in the.
00:28:45 Fa
Inside this giant dam or whatever.
00:28:47 Fa
And you were here inside this dam. You're looking and I could see that there's a city down there. So it's like, oh, there's a city, you know, just in the path or where this river used to be. And I kept kept looking around and I would see people in there. I I would see people inside of the damn whatever. And I could tell that they're church people.
00:29:08 Fa
Right. And I look.
00:29:09 Fa
Around and I was like, oh, this is like a church. I like, this is a church.
00:29:14 Fa
And the people who tried the the dam were really happy with the water that was being tripped on them. So it was like it was dripping water on people and they're really happy. And it's like it was all that they knew was like, we lived here in here. All our lives are over. And, you know, it's in this like this.
00:29:34 Fa
Isn't this wonderful? This water in here? And I was like, yeah, you know, it's out of a dam. It's not. Shouldn't really be, you know, drinking that water that's coming off the wall or whatever.
00:29:45 Fa
So I'm like, OK, actually today I saw more of this vision too. Like I saw people like trying to fish in there like because it was like.
00:29:54 Fa
So much walk inside this.
00:29:55 Fa
Yeah. And I guess like for some people, it's kind of hard to grasp what I'm saying. But if you've ever seen, like, the Hoover Dam, whatever the structure that holds that damn back is huge. Because from the pictures, you don't really get the sense, but that those walls are like, insanely.
00:30:17 Fa
There's a ton of machinery in there, and you know, because they use a dam.
00:30:22 Fa
To create water on their.
00:30:24 Fa
So you know you.
00:30:25 Fa
Could it's a? It's a legit structure, right? You could people could live in there if they wanted to, but you know people are.
00:30:31 Fa
Not working or whatever.
00:30:32 Fa
So my vision is like that was the church. That damn was the church. I was like, OK, and all of a sudden, the whole spirit took me up.
00:30:42 Fa
Like like I was floating up but like up.
00:30:45 Fa
Up above the dam.
00:30:46 Fa
And I could see the water.
00:30:49 Fa
Clearest water you've ever seen, and you could see underneath the water underneath the water. There's like, it's funny because I kind of saw, like, emojis. It was like a bunch of little hearts, like in the water fish. There was, like, precious jewels, there was.
00:31:06 Fa
There's everything. There was what I could tell is like inside that water there was everything. But none of that stuff made it through.
00:31:14 Fa
To the dam, like inside the dam, it was just, you know, water and nothing else. Yeah, because it was filtered, right. The waters would filter and I could see, like, some people.
00:31:26 Fa
Fishing on that dam or on the waters and stuff.
00:31:30 Fa
So like those people kind of have it right, they're not living inside the structure, they're all in the water.
00:31:35 Fa
But most of.
00:31:36 Fa
The people were.
00:31:37 Fa
Inside the dam so.
00:31:37 Fa
I went, you know.
00:31:39 Fa
So then I am back inside the dam again and.
00:31:43 Fa
What's happening is.
00:31:45 Fa
Now things are starting to like turn inside the dam and.
00:31:51 Fa
You could just hear it like the dam was going to burst, like you could hear the structure.
00:31:58 Fa
Making noise like creaking and stuff to the.
00:32:01 Fa
Point it was like super.
00:32:03 Fa
Like you're like I.
00:32:04 Fa
Felt so uncomfortable, like, oh, this things gonna burst.
00:32:08 Fa
And I at this point, the whole spirit spoke to me and he said when this damn bursts, no one's going to control it. Like there's no controlling.
00:32:20 Fa
And I was like, wow.
00:32:22 Fa
He was like there is no stopping this.
00:32:25 Fa
Everyone in here would be thrown into like.
00:32:30 Fa
The city or whatever outside the damn right this will burst.
00:32:33 Fa
Everything, everybody will be projected like out of here and.
00:32:37 Fa
It's going to.
00:32:38 Fa
Like wipe out the cities. This this wipe wipe out the city, but not in a bad way, you know.
00:32:42 Fa
I mean like it was just it would.
00:32:45 Fa
If you think about this ecosystem that was in there, there was a damn there's a city, the church, he told me that the church was the damn holding back the Holy Spirit.
00:32:54 Fa
I was like, OK.
00:32:56 Fa
When he was like, this will burst and you will lose control. That's that's the words that I heard like he would.
00:33:04 Fa
Lose control. Control of like everything you've been building so far. Everything you've been doing, it's like I'm gonna wipe it away in, like a second. Because when this purse, when it goes, it goes. Yeah, like there's no more controlling. It's wild. Yeah.
00:33:20 Rachel
Yeah. So we basically had the same kind of vision, but.
00:33:26 Rachel
Yeah. So I think it's probably pretty evident that like God is trying to say something, he's like, he's gonna, he's doing something. I think that, you know, not only has I mean our lives have been just like almost for, like, it's been radically different for us. I mean spiritually.
00:33:45 Rachel
Thinking we've been like transformed, but like, we're probably not the only ones I'm going to say that confidently. We're not the only ones that God's.
00:33:52 Fa
Been moving on like a lot of people are.
00:33:53 Rachel
And he's doing that.
00:33:57 Fa
On a different level lately, and things are happening to everybody.
00:34:01 Fa
Like and and you know you could tell different parts of the country.
00:34:04 Fa
And people are like.
00:34:05 Rachel
Even like the the Asbury like revival, that kind of thing like God is clearly doing something. So I think it's what I'm seeing is the structures that we've built, the things we're familiar with, what we know. I think God's going to blow it out of, blow it out of the water. I mean it's he's he's going to come up and.
00:34:25 Rachel
You know, let that rain, that water flow, the spirit is going to flow unencumbered, unobstructed.
00:34:31 Fa
For example.
00:34:33 Rachel
So I I mean I'm.
00:34:34 Rachel
Excited for what? That actually looks.
00:34:35 Rachel
Like you know.
00:34:36 Fa
I am too. When that Asbury Revival thing broke out, actually put the fear of God in me because I was like, well, like there's a legit revival happening.
00:34:48 Fa
And I started to study that revival when the last time that happened, like it spread to the.
00:34:52 Fa
Whole country or whatever, yeah.
00:34:55 Fa
And I had friends that went there and they were like, this is like anything. It's unlike anything else we've ever felt and stuff. I was like, wow.
00:35:03 Fa
And so I'm thinking like, what's going to happen, you know, what's?
00:35:07 Fa
What's going to happen to?
00:35:09 Fa
What's going to happen to the church when everything like really goes when what's going to happen when God is like, alright, it's time for like a different move or it's time for.
00:35:20 Fa
I don't want to say it's like, oh, it's an end time move or whatever because people say stuff like that all the time and.
00:35:25 Rachel
It's like Jesus went back.
00:35:29 Rachel
To heaven, and we've been the end times like.
00:35:32 Rachel
Well, you know, I mean like it's.
00:35:33 Rachel
It's end times, it's.
00:35:34 Rachel
Always. It's amazing.
00:35:35 Fa
But people are always like oh.
00:35:36 Fa
This is the last generation this.
00:35:38 Fa
I don't. I'm not going to say it all that stuff, but I will say.
00:35:38 Rachel
Yeah, I know.
00:35:40
Well, mean.
00:35:43 Fa
With 100% certainty like.
00:35:48 Fa
It's like I can see Jesus just holding back in the Holy Spirit, just holding back and, you know, God saying not yet. Not yet, not yet. And then all of a sudden they get the green light and I don't know what's going to happen, I don't know.
00:35:56 Rachel
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:01 Rachel
Right. Well, didn't you have, like, a vision like that? Like where?
00:36:01 Fa
What's going to happen?
00:36:05 Rachel
You remember? Like he's preparing the like. He's preparing dancing like the whole thing like, yeah.
00:36:10 Fa
Ohh yeah, I did at one time when I was spraying I saw.
00:36:15 Fa
I saw the Holy Spirit preparing a guest list for the wedding. That's up in heaven, and I saw I saw a dance floor being built and I saw.
00:36:25 Fa
Like tables being put together and clothes being made and you know, God was taking peoples like measurements and stuff to make shoes for. Actually for the bride make make a shoe for her and make you know, jewels and stuff. And the dress and all that stuff. I was like oh wow. And it was being prepared.
00:36:45 Fa
Know if we're going to eat food and have it or not, but I don't know. You know, I just what I saw.
00:36:50 Fa
What else? What else?
00:36:52 Fa
Oh yeah, music like music being rehearsed. I just never. I never thought thought of stuff.
00:36:58 Rachel
Like that, like. Well, the the preparations are.
00:37:00 Fa
In the preparations for a wedding? Yeah.
00:37:00 Rachel
Being made, you know like.
00:37:02 Rachel
I think he was just showing.
00:37:04 Rachel
You was like, hey, you know.
00:37:06 Rachel
We're getting ready here. We're all preparing for you.
00:37:07 Fa
Yeah, I know, right?
00:37:09 Rachel
And it's pretty wild though, because you know, I mean, that's the thing that people were.
00:37:13 Rachel
Always like. Yeah, sometimes they're now just come back now.
00:37:16 Rachel
Well, which is not wrong because I mean a day is like 1000 years to to God. So I.
00:37:22 Fa
Mean there's also.
00:37:23 Fa
Long time in heaven. So like those things are happening.
00:37:23 Rachel
Well, there's no real.
00:37:26 Rachel
Sure. Like, yeah. And times are now, man. This that's legit, you know.
00:37:27 Fa
You know it's happening, yeah.
00:37:32 Rachel
But yeah, no, I.
00:37:34 Rachel
I don't know what's happening. I do know that something's happening like God is doing something, you know? Yeah. Like, there's going to be a big move. I think a move of just like what he wants to happen. You know, I think we're so we have built.
00:37:52 Rachel
And built and built for God about God.
00:38:00 Rachel
I don't know. I think that God is trying to bring us to a position where it's like, OK, you know, you can do things for me, but why don't we just let me? Why don't you just do things with me? Why don't you just let me?
00:38:11 Rachel
Do what I want to do.
00:38:12 Fa
Right, that's the new season where it looks like, oh, yeah, you've worked for me. But let's do things by way. No.
00:38:14 Rachel
Say hey.
00:38:16 Rachel
Yeah, cool.
00:38:19 Rachel
Right. Like you don't have to be my slave. You don't have to. It's like I no longer call you a servant.
00:38:24 Rachel
And you know.
00:38:25 Rachel
It's like call you a friend. Like let's.
00:38:27 Rachel
Do this together. Why don't?
00:38:28 Rachel
You ask me what I.
00:38:29 Rachel
Want to do you know we have a friend that constant quotes some guy that always I forget his name. Now I wish I remember it. But he was like, hey, what do you think church would look like if we actually stopped doing all the things that God never asked us to do?
00:38:43 Rachel
And that kind of floors?
00:38:44 Fa
Right, yeah.
00:38:45 Rachel
Me a bit because yeah, we.
00:38:47 Rachel
Do a lot of stuff.
00:38:49 Rachel
In the name of God.
00:38:52 Rachel
I don't know how much of it was really what he wanted us to do. Nothing is wrong.
00:38:56 Rachel
Wrong, but it's like, man, is it right? I don't know. Like, you know, another part of, like, my whole Spring vision was like I saw people. You. You can go over to the spring and you want people to have this water like you want people to drink it. You want people to taste and see and know that God is good.
00:39:14 Rachel
But hey, we only have a circumference of this.
00:39:16 Rachel
Amount of people.
00:39:17 Rachel
In our general area.
00:39:19 Rachel
You know, OK, well, the people that live around us, that our friends with us, they can come over to my house, they can drink this water and taste of God.
00:39:25 Rachel
And know he's good.
00:39:26 Rachel
So that that's great, but what about?
00:39:28 Rachel
Everywhere. And doesn't the Bible.
00:39:29 Rachel
Say go and make disciples of nations. So like what about the nations? We have to go out to the nations. So how do we do that? Well, we want people to drink this spring water that's here. This is God's presence.
00:39:39 Rachel
You want people to have this natural.
00:39:42 Rachel
You know, encounter with God. So how do we do that? Well.
00:39:47 Rachel
Let's bottle the water. Let's let's take plastic bottles and we'll bottle the water. But that's expensive, right? So like nothing. Nothing ain't cheap. Nothing ain't free. So let's charge them for the bottled water. We can sell them these bottles of water and that way they get to drink of the spirit and.
00:39:57 Fa
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:07 Rachel
They'll, you know we.
00:40:09 Rachel
It's at cost, so we'll.
00:40:10 Rachel
Just you know.
00:40:11 Rachel
We'll make up our.
00:40:13 Rachel
You know our losses, but they'll pay for it. So it's like they get the gospel, they get God's spirit.
00:40:19 Rachel
With the cause.
00:40:20 Rachel
Yeah. And I saw that it's like man.
00:40:24 Rachel
I don't want that.
00:40:25 Rachel
I don't want to bottle God's water. And it's funny because it's not that it's wrong and the that the Holy Spirit was like.
00:40:31 Rachel
It's not that it's wrong.
00:40:33 Rachel
But is it right? Is it what I'm?
00:40:35 Rachel
Asking you to do.
00:40:36 Rachel
Yeah, he says. When you let the spring be natural, the spring will make.
00:40:41 Rachel
Streams the streams will become creeks, yeah, the creeks will become rivers, the rivers become.
00:40:48 Rachel
Like if you let it just do its natural thing, let the Holy Spirit carry naturally you don't have.
00:40:54 Rachel
To bottle water anymore, do you?
00:40:56 Fa
No. Yeah.
00:40:57 Rachel
And so it's kind of like I think God is trying to to take all the things that we have constructed in order to please him in order to serve him and be like, listen, if you do it my way, you don't have to do.
00:41:10 Rachel
All that extra crap you.
00:41:11 Rachel
Can just watch what I will do with you.
00:41:14
Right.
00:41:15
You know.
00:41:16 Rachel
So it's just kind of.
00:41:17 Fa
Follow me and I'll make you fishers.
00:41:19 Rachel
Right. Yeah. I mean, that's for another podcast and my vision about that. Yeah, but.
00:41:22 Fa
Little Caesar.
00:41:25 Fa
But you know what? What I'm thinking too is that.
00:41:30 Fa
You you grew up in this, you grew up in church or whatever, and it's what everybody does. And it's the culture and you know, it's what people have been doing for a long time so.
00:41:41 Fa
It's natural that you want to propagate it.
00:41:43 Fa
You know what?
00:41:44 Fa
I mean, but then, thank God that the Holy Spirit will come and be like, yeah, maybe that's not what we want to do anymore, you know, I mean, like, there's a better way here or I always think about revival. And I always think about how people will at some point in their lives or whatever.
00:41:44 Rachel
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:51 Rachel
Right, right.
00:42:03 Fa
Had have some sort of revival in their lives and there's the structure of how God did things for the survival or for this time in their lives. And then they cling on to that lake, you know, with a death grip or whatever. And they never let it go and it's.
00:42:19 Fa
Like what about what? What's God doing?
00:42:21 Rachel
Today, uh, no, it's so true.
00:42:21 Fa
You're gonna be like, yeah. And it's it's you're gonna say it's so hard, it's hard, you know? I mean.
00:42:27 Rachel
Like I always and people might get upset by this, but it is what it is, you know? Aren't the whole like being slain in the spirit like.
00:42:33 Rachel
Back and well from the.
00:42:36 Rachel
The Jesus movement on, you know, even like the more recent revivals, like in the night with the the Brownsville and like, you know, the airport revival, that stuff like people getting, like, slaying the spirit and like falling over and God and Jesus was doing that. And that was like the spirit was moving, you know. And for me growing up in church, it was like let's replicate that.
00:42:58 Rachel
Let's just everybody's gonna fall over now. Like everyone's going to start doing this and.
00:43:00 Fa
OK.
00:43:02 Rachel
That, and like it's not that it's.
00:43:04 Rachel
You know I'm not.
00:43:04 Rachel
Saying I'm not trying.
00:43:05 Rachel
To delegitimize that, because I remember as a kid growing up to see some speaker or whatever, I don't even remember who she was. But she prayed for me. She didn't touch me. And I.
00:43:15 Rachel
Fell over and.
00:43:16 Rachel
Like you know, I didn't do that. Yeah, but it's like we get stuck. I feel like. Then you have like.
00:43:17 Fa
That's happened to me one time.
00:43:24 Rachel
These little I don't know. And then this is going to sound like criticism and I'm not trying to. I'm just saying like we we grab on to a certain thing, but like Jesus moves.
00:43:32 Rachel
This you're not having a good time.
00:43:35 Rachel
In the spirit, unless you're falling over, you know.
00:43:37 Rachel
Let's have revival here and let's.
00:43:39 Rachel
Scream about it, you know, and.
00:43:40 Rachel
And like, let's make sure we're pushing people over, you know, because that's what, because there was a move and and the Holy Spirit was doing that. And I'm not saying that he's still not doing that. I'm just saying is that the only thing he does like is this where we're replicating now.
00:43:54 Rachel
All the time because we saw him do.
00:43:55 Rachel
That like you know.
00:43:57 Rachel
20 years ago, like what's he doing now?
00:44:00 Fa
Yeah, ever since this sort of.
00:44:04 Fa
I want to use the word revival, but it's not a good word. But ever since this revival started happening to us since September of last year, the biggest thing I've learned is like it was I I spent a good three to four weeks.
00:44:23 Fa
I am praying and I wouldn't feel anything from God like.
00:44:27 Fa
Wouldn't nothing would happen like I would, I would see. No, nothing. I would feel nothing. And whenever I used to pray like I put headphones on and I'd listen to some worship, music, music and I just felt the presence of God and I stopped balling my eyes out. And that's how I knew was like, I'm in the presence of God. I'm feeling this or whatever.
00:44:48 Fa
All is well and I mean like God did to me. What he's been doing for like 20 years and all of a sudden.
00:44:54 Fa
All of this.
00:44:55 Fa
Stopped for like 4-3 to 4.
00:44:57 Fa
Weeks and what's funny is God showed me at the beginning what was happening. But you know, I just.
00:45:07 Fa
It it takes a while for things to get off of you and then it takes a while for you to relearn things.
00:45:13 Fa
God showed me.
00:45:14 Fa
That that wasn't going to happen anymore. It's like we've been having this relationship for 20 years where, you know, you come to.
00:45:20 Fa
My presence.
00:45:21 Fa
You feel my presence, you cry, you leave now. God told me he wants something different, but like I didn't.
00:45:29 Fa
I I don't know if I didn't want to let go. I don't know if it was hard to let go. I just know that it took a long time to let go, you know, to me like every time I was spraying, I would see myself digging the well. And it was it like a new.
00:45:44 Fa
Well, you know, I.
00:45:45 Fa
Mean like and God like this is our new relationship. You got to dig and you know I had to pray.
00:45:50 Fa
And I would feel anything. I wouldn't feel anything. Nothing would happen for like 3 or 4 weeks. It was rough, it was rough because every.
00:45:58 Fa
Day of those three or four weeks, you would come down the stairs when you woke up and you like last night I was praying. I saw this, this and that. And God tell me this. This and that. And I'm like, oh, you know, I didn't last time I was praying and I just saw myself digging well, like nothing happened. I didn't feel this present. I knew deep down inside I knew it was going to come back to, you know, out feel his presence.
00:46:18 Fa
Not cry to but.
00:46:20 Fa
I just didn't grasp.
00:46:21 Fa
That he wanted to do something different.
00:46:23 Fa
In me, you know what?
00:46:24 Fa
I mean, and it was hard it.
00:46:25 Fa
Was hard to let go.
00:46:26 Rachel
Is hard.
00:46:27 Fa
Yeah, it was hard to relearn things.
00:46:31 Fa
Because I'm old now and I don't like change.
00:46:36 Rachel
Have you ever like change? I don't.
00:46:37 Fa
Know I don't know. Maybe when I was little at.
00:46:40 Fa
Some point in your life you embrace.
00:46:42 Fa
Change like it's it's so easy, but yes.
00:46:43 Fa
Get older.
00:46:44 Fa
You kind of, you know, you know, and you also, you know.
00:46:47 Fa
You like and you know what? You know? Whatever.
00:46:50 Rachel
I guess that when things are always the same, the opposite. Yeah. Can there please be?
00:46:52 Fa
I know, I know. You do. Yeah, I know you.
00:46:54 Fa
Do. Yeah, like.
00:46:58 Rachel
Things are too mundane.
00:47:00 Fa
I said this before you.
00:47:00 Fa
Want different tasting toothpaste? I was.
00:47:03 Fa
Like just eating the white stuff that burns.
00:47:04 Fa
Your mouth that kills the germs.
00:47:05 Rachel
Yeah, yeah, I know. Kind of taste all the flavors of the rainbow. Yeah.
00:47:12 Fa
A blank one. Nice coffee for 20.
00:47:13 Rachel
Years. Yes, that.
00:47:15 Rachel
Seems same to me, I don't.
00:47:16 Rachel
Know I don't get sick of it.
00:47:18 Rachel
It can't.
00:47:18
I don't know. Like what's?
00:47:18 Rachel
Just keep drinking the same thing.
00:47:19 Fa
The problem, you know what I mean? Like.
00:47:20 Rachel
I get sick of it after a while. My God.
00:47:22 Fa
I think I don't want to be disappointed. Disappointed. You know, I mean, like, I don't want to try new things and be it was like.
00:47:28 Fa
Oh, that sucked you.
00:47:29 Fa
Know I mean like how we did. We went to the new Chinese place tonight or whatever and.
00:47:33 Rachel
I I was OK with that. It's.
00:47:33 Fa
Like you know, you know, let's see if.
00:47:35 Fa
It's good. Let's see if this is good and we're at.
00:47:37 Rachel
True, you know.
00:47:38 Fa
The point now where we want good stuff.
00:47:40 Rachel
It's true. Well, I'm at the point where I'm hungry.
00:47:43 Rachel
Don't disappoint me.
00:47:46 Rachel
Like I'm I don't even care. I'll pay good money for good food. But paying good money for bad food.
00:47:52 Rachel
I'm going to.
00:47:52 Rachel
Be upset like anyone would be. But anyway, yeah.
00:47:57 Fa
You know, I was upset with this place because it was.
00:47:58 Rachel
I didn't think bad.
00:47:59 Fa
It's not bad, but you know, I could have had that Chinese food from Golden Dragon here for 10 bucks instead of 16 bucks and no rice, it had no rice.
00:48:10 Rachel
Well, I don't think that that is that.
00:48:12 Rachel
Good, you know.
00:48:13 Fa
I don't care. It feels good. I'm saying this like it was.
00:48:17 Fa
And I have average here for half.
00:48:19 Fa
The price you.
00:48:19 Rachel
Know what I mean? The problem is where we live now is you.
00:48:21 Rachel
Only get average.
00:48:22 Rachel
Chinese food we came from. Good, good, not average. So we're going down and our quality. And so I don't know, it's a whole thing. We could have a whole podcast about.
00:48:34 Fa
Let's go back to Jesus.
00:48:34 Rachel
Chinese food, honestly, but.
00:48:37 Rachel
But yeah, so I mean it's.
00:48:41 Rachel
I don't know. I I think God is doing something new. God is always doing something new. It's.
00:48:45 Rachel
Kind of like we've.
00:48:47 Fa
I could rephrase that to for you. I think we are learning to follow what God is doing instead of just doing the same on.
00:48:55 Rachel
Time. Well, I mean the Bible.
00:48:56 Rachel
Say behold, I am doing a new thing. What am I doing today?
00:48:59 Fa
You we have to.
00:49:00 Fa
Behold, like we haven't.
00:49:02 Rachel
Right, you have to behold.
00:49:04 Rachel
That's the point. Behold, what are you doing? Jesus, I'm going to be with you. Behold that you, man. That's that's it right there.
00:49:04 Fa
We don't.
00:49:12 Fa
We always miss something from the.
00:49:13 Rachel
Yeah, dude.
00:49:14 Fa
Word like there's always.
00:49:16 Fa
Out of every passenger, there's always something we just rush through.
00:49:21 Rachel
Well, here's the thing, and we'll talk about it.
00:49:22 Rachel
In like maybe a couple of episodes from.
00:49:24 Rachel
Now, but you know.
00:49:26 Rachel
When and I say this, I am people who know me, like I talk about this. This is like one of the bigger revelations of my life, I think. And it's so simple. And it's so right there.
00:49:35 Rachel
In front of your face.
00:49:37 Rachel
You know, and maybe other.
00:49:38 Rachel
People, maybe I'm just slow. Honestly, there's probably people been like, alright. Yeah, she's she didn't get that. And there's, like, I I'll tell you countless things. The Bible where I have just been like.
00:49:47 Rachel
Uh-huh. Yeah, that's what the Bible says. I never got it, you know, simple stuff that, like, fundamental things in Christianity that I.
00:49:54 Rachel
I would have known growing up as a Christian in a church being saved since I was 5 should grasp that sooner, but I'm like, oh, that's what that meant, but.
00:50:03 Rachel
You know I.
00:50:06 Rachel
The whole thing when Jesus goes over to the the the disciples were fishing and he was.
00:50:10 Rachel
Like, hey, follow.
00:50:11 Rachel
Me and I'll make you a disciple of men.
00:50:14 Rachel
You're a fisherman and men. Excuse me. Follow me and I'll make you fishers. Fishermen of men. I can't say that. Right, fish fishers, is it?
00:50:21 Fa
Fishers of men.
00:50:22 Fa
Fishers, I think it's fishers a.
00:50:24 Rachel
Man, fisherman, a man.
00:50:27 Rachel
Fisherman. Fisherman.
00:50:30 Rachel
Finally, and I'll make you fishers of men.
00:50:40 Rachel
The Holy Spirit spoke to.
00:50:41 Rachel
Me about this and I'll share about the whole vision that kind of led up to.
00:50:44 Rachel
That revelation for me.
00:50:46 Rachel
But he was like, what's the command in that verse? And I'm like, give me fishermen, fishermen of men, we're going to go out there and tell people about Jesus. But he said no, the command for.
00:50:54 Fa
And we thank them for the command. Everyone thinks the command was.
00:50:57 Fa
Today in faith.
00:50:59 Rachel
You is to follow me? Yeah.
00:51:01 Rachel
That's it. So I have to do you have to go out there fishing. I'll take you fishing. Just follow me when we're fishing. We're going fishing. When we're doing this, we're doing this. You know, the whole point is that I'm supposed to follow. I'm supposed to hold and then everything else will come into an alignment because I'm with him and you know the
00:51:21 Rachel
A man.
00:51:23 Rachel
Is to follow, not to go make.
00:51:26 Rachel
Disciples. It's to follow him and he'll make disciples. And the whole spirit told me about this too. Like a different vision.
00:51:33 Rachel
He's, like freaking. You know, the Great Commission? Yeah. Go make disciples of all nations. Yeah, but you have people who are going out and trying to make disciples of other people and other nations without having been discipled themselves. You have to be discipled before you can become a discipler.
00:51:47 Fa
Yes. Yeah.
00:51:52 Rachel
And it's the same thing. You have to follow.
00:51:54 Rachel
The the command for you. What you need to be.
00:51:57 Rachel
Worrying about is.
00:51:58 Rachel
Are you following? Not if you're converting people, are you following Jesus because it comes naturally once you, once you're in alignment with his order of following him first, then you'll become he'll make you the fisherman.
00:52:00
Right.
00:52:11 Rachel
He'll do that. That's not something you have to do at all. Your job is to follow. And that, like, blew my mind. I'm like, oh, my.
00:52:17 Rachel
God, it's actually way more easier.
00:52:19 Rachel
Than I thought.
00:52:21 Fa
It's been so.
00:52:21 Fa
Good. Yeah.
00:52:23 Rachel
But on that note.
00:52:28 Fa
Yes, it's a good place to stop.
00:52:31 Fa
It's been an hour. Almost.
00:52:33
That's good.
00:52:34 Fa
Yeah. And then we end up on a good note.
00:52:38 Rachel
Not about the bad Chinese food, but about Jesus, but thanks for.
00:52:44 Rachel
Listening. Thanks for listening.
00:52:45 Fa
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00:52:45 Rachel
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00:52:48 Rachel
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00:52:50 Fa
No, there is no.
00:52:52 Rachel
I didn't think so.
00:52:52 Fa
That's only YouTube or Facebook or whatever. We don't have that stuff yet.
00:52:57 Fa
Share it. That would be nice. And also go on Apple would be.
00:52:58 Rachel
Sure, that would be good.
00:53:03 Fa
There was a review.
00:53:05 Fa
Something like that.
00:53:07 Fa
All right, great. Have a good week. We'll see you.
00:53:10 Fa
Next week. Thanks guys.